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A lengthy quote from one contributor the TUFC Fans Forum, but probably worth including. The MOTD reference is presumably to Southampton's 2nd conceded goal last Saturday.
".....Well that was the most comfortable 90 minutes so far this season, and the most complete performance of the season so far . But was that down to our good play, or down to Chippenham being very poor? My honest answer would be a bit of both, however our squad tonight every single one of them are deserving of great credit.
Paul Wotton clearly unhappy at his teams tempo v Aveley seems to have really got into the squad, because the team have started this match like a F1 car, after calls for PW to watch Match of the Day for ideas, tonight thankfully I think the Chippenham boss seems have used MOTD as a coaching manual, as his Chippenham side tried to play out from the back in Man City style.
This for played right into our hands, as they didn't have the ability to do so, and not only have we seen our team match them with a high press, we've seen our team do so with a very high energy, so no surprise two early goals soon followed, we'd see our the Chippenham post hit also, from a tactical point of view I was shocked and as TUFC fan thankful that Chippenham didn't ditch that tactic at all, rather try than to play their way back into the game from 2 down, by defending with greater numbers and bypassing our midfield.
As the half wore on, and Chippenham continued in vain to play our from the back, TUFC would gain success from the high press, as Chippenham barely if ever troubled our team past the half way line, it seemed only a matter of time before their ran ragged back line would be breached again, and duly was as Untied went in 3 up at the break...."
In fairness,this is only one person'sview.. and I wasn't there... but it has a horribly familiar ring to it, sadly...
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Well that is a very interesting post by the Torquay fan. No doubt most of us who post on here would agree with every word and given that they are not made by a Chippenham fan those comments hit home a bit harder. Those who saw Saturday's game would have left feeling that in the 2nd half abandoning this pointless and boring playing around at the back resulted in 45 minutes of good attacking entertaining football and any casual fan at the game would have been encouraged to come back. But based on what the Torquay fan has said it didn't take long to revert back to type!Sounds like even though this way of playing yielded nothing the management persisted in playing that way.
I was not present at the game either and perhaps it is wrong to comment on the game but having said that those comments were all to familiar and could have been made by any
Of us numerous times last season. And before anyone says it, yes no doubt Torquay were much better than Enfield but that doesn't detract from the fact we played a style that achieved zero.
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I’ll await the hi-lights but it seems everyone knows how we play, put us under pressure from start and we’ll make a mistake…most commonly but Williams.
Just that Maidstone weren’t good enough up front to capitalise and Enfield sat back after going in front.
We’ve signed Parsons but he’s bench warming most games.
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The difference between a pro side and semi pro side. They’d have spent all of Monday preparing to play us, whilst we wouldn’t have had a single session to focus on them after going all the way vs Enfield on Saturday.
I don’t see why we’d be upset or surprised at that kind of result last night. 3000 fans in and they will be right up there come seasons end, I’m just glad we’ve got our trip there out of the way early.
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I think you slightly miss the point 96chipp. It's, of course, no surprise that Torquay and many other clubs are better resourced and better prepared than us... nor that occasionally we'll take a tonking from a good side. Those are the facts of life for CTFC.. and lots of other small clubs.
What I think the Torquay Forum poster was highlighting was our predictability and how vulnerable it makes us. Teams much more modest than Torquay are working us out and exploiting this blind determination always to play out from and across the back. ( I do think there's a difference between the two)
I completely applaud Gary Horgan & the management of the club generally for their highly principled " footballing" stance, but sometimes the relentless determination to only play one way makes us vulnerable and easy to take advantage of. It also frustrates more fans than me, by the sound of it.
Occasionally it is useful to have another voice outside the Club who analyses the problem.. that's all.
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Quite comprehensive analysis from the Torquay fan. The part "they played into our hands" is a damning assessment of the CTFC principles of playing out from the back!! Interesting too that an opposing supporter is as baffled as we normally are that this tactic is still persisted with after it gets worked out.
Wasn't at Torquay but looking at the highlights - seemed we struggled to both stop and deal with crosses and track runners. Then again if the main emphasis or "principles"in every game is playing out or around the back, the need to do the basics defensively probably gets forgotten or not have much focus on it.
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The comments made by the Torquay fan have generated pretty consistent responses from ourselves. Agree with what Rambler hinted at that the result itself was not unexpected it was as usual our style of play that was the problem.
Based on the comments from the Torquay fan it seems that we stuck to this way of playing when clearly it wasn't working. Perhaps wishful thinking but wouldn't it be nice if in one of Gary Horgan's post match interviews he would like to explain why he sticks to a tactic which is clearly not working and plays right into the hands of the opposition
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When we've been at our best the last few seasons it's when we keep it on the deck but move it up the pitch quickly and with a purpose.
Saturday against a high-flying but on-paper beatable Tonbridge should be a good indication of where we are at and if any lessons have been learnt.
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96chipp wrote:
The difference between a pro side and semi pro side. They’d have spent all of Monday preparing to play us, whilst we wouldn’t have had a single session to focus on them after going all the way vs Enfield on Saturday.
I don’t see why we’d be upset or surprised at that kind of result last night. 3000 fans in and they will be right up there come seasons end, I’m just glad we’ve got our trip there out of the way early.
Absolutely this. Bad day at the office for us, every game won't be like that. Just have to look at the games we "should be winning" and focus on those.
I think I'm still one of the only fans that prefer our style of play. I do agree we should move the ball quicker though, that is my only criticism. The proof is in the pudding (last season, played 16, lost 16, 0 goal difference), for every "silly goal we concede by messing around at the back" we score goals too by drawing the opposition in. Some games we'll win, some games we'll lose.
I would rather be entertained than watching some hoofball shite like Hungerford.
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Probably an age/generational difference between us, BB. Considering we sit alongside each other at games, you'll know that this old correspondent's ticker goes into overdrive every time we play cross-penalty-area pinball at the back. Your youthful heart is clearly "entertained" by this; mine is racing at 180 bpm and close to requiring medical intervention!