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My only hope is that people understand in time why decisions like this are made. Sadly this club has always had a few slow minds with fast fingers and in this instance, it has upset the chairman and his family as accusations of this being a vanity project or about Neil's own ego could not be further from accurate. Neil has always given selflessly during his tenure at the football club, shirking the limelight in favour of a quieter chairmanship, unassumingly going about his business in a way that not many are accustomed to seeing from someone who owns a football club.
Every now and then, decisions like this have to be made with the best interests of the club at heart. Without Mr Blackmore, we are a ship without a captain. We will idle until we sink or of course until someone else takes a trick at the wheel however, I don't see people lining up behind Neil with copious amounts of money and vision to take the club forward so my suggestion to all would be trust in what we have and back the man or (and this is just my personal opinion) risk losing him. If Neil doesn't do this for fame or glory, he surely doesn't do it for the additional hard work and energy expelled into running the club, I can only imagine he does this for the same reason we turn up in our numbers every week. Love, passion, and wanting to make a difference in the club. When he is slated for doing so, my first impression if I was in that position would be "Well, what's the point?" "Get some other person to plough money through the club in the hope of improvement" Because there is no doubt regardless of what others have done before and will do in the future. Neil has taken us to the highest level we have ever played at. Single handed? Of course not, but under his chairmanship, Chippenham have reached heights many could scarcely dream of when we were getting battered around the Southern League and looking likely to fall back down as opposed to what happened mere seasons after.
All of us have a boss at work as mentioned before, I run my own business, a rather successful Lead Generation company and that has led me to the point where my clients are my bosses, my shareholders are my bosses, the accountant is my ultimate boss. I sponsor a local football team in Portsmouth, only youth level, name on the shirt stuff and basically give the kiddies a kit to play in. This cost me £600 for all new kits, printing and a few little bits of equipment. And here's the kicker, my accountant had a moan at me about this! "What are you getting from this arrangement as a business?" First question asked. The answer to that is very little. I get the sense of pride watching 11 children run around in kits that look and feel like proper football kits, it excites them and they love it that they are sponsored because it makes them feel special. Totally worth £600 to me, to the accountant (and these people truly are the devil I assure you) he considered it a total waste of company money. The reason I tell this story is because imagine what Neil, Thornbury Surfacing LTD and the various other dedicated board members have put through the club for essentially the same right? I sponsor a kit, Neil sponsors a kit but although the levels are VERY different, essentially it is the same marketing, the same advertisement just on a slightly larger scale. Now think whether Neil pays, just £600 for this privilege, think what Neil puts in both in terms of personal finance and business finance and imagine just for a minute if you will what his "shareholders" "associates" and "accountant" think of the amount of money being received by CTFC for a kit sponsorship and a board around the ground.
I can run you off a list of stadiums that have changed names, location etc. To accommodate a sponsor or an increase of revenue coming into the club, this list would go on for hours and hours, damn near every club in the UK now, except for the ones who do not have too, have this arrangement in place. Of course United have Old Trafford, Liverpool have Anfield, but we are not these clubs! We need to do what we need to do to survive in football or risk being another club consigned to statistics because I assure you, should we continue as a support to poke the bear over something trivial like this, we could well face that reality and then I promise you, Chippenham Town FC will not be in this position anymore.
So for all I care call it the ground whatever you damn well please, this is a decision made by the board FOR THE CLUB and not the few that have jumped up in arms about something that quite honestly, if they thought about it, doesn't really matter anyway. We speak frequently on here about modernising the club, about going into the 21st century. Stadium sponsorship is very much a part of that future. We cannot be bleating on one minute about a card machine in the bar and then put the sword to any changes made to improve the revenue of the club, it's simply not the way it goes.
I am certain to see many of you Saturday and no doubt this will be a discussion many will have around the water cooler but come on people, this is a decision made by a man and his board with no previous of ego, vanity or self gain but has always put the club first. If this is the first "controversial" move made by the BOD, have they not earned the benefit of our trust? We've come this far believing in them, why stop now?
COYMB
Any chance you can limit your posts to say a few lines?
I can’t believe any apart from a few of your gang read them or have the inclination or time to digest what generally is just a load of old guff
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TheVoice wrote:
My only hope is that people understand in time why decisions like this are made. Sadly this club has always had a few slow minds with fast fingers and in this instance, it has upset the chairman and his family as accusations of this being a vanity project or about Neil's own ego could not be further from accurate. Neil has always given selflessly during his tenure at the football club, shirking the limelight in favour of a quieter chairmanship, unassumingly going about his business in a way that not many are accustomed to seeing from someone who owns a football club.
Every now and then, decisions like this have to be made with the best interests of the club at heart. Without Mr Blackmore, we are a ship without a captain. We will idle until we sink or of course until someone else takes a trick at the wheel however, I don't see people lining up behind Neil with copious amounts of money and vision to take the club forward so my suggestion to all would be trust in what we have and back the man or (and this is just my personal opinion) risk losing him. If Neil doesn't do this for fame or glory, he surely doesn't do it for the additional hard work and energy expelled into running the club, I can only imagine he does this for the same reason we turn up in our numbers every week. Love, passion, and wanting to make a difference in the club. When he is slated for doing so, my first impression if I was in that position would be "Well, what's the point?" "Get some other person to plough money through the club in the hope of improvement" Because there is no doubt regardless of what others have done before and will do in the future. Neil has taken us to the highest level we have ever played at. Single handed? Of course not, but under his chairmanship, Chippenham have reached heights many could scarcely dream of when we were getting battered around the Southern League and looking likely to fall back down as opposed to what happened mere seasons after.
All of us have a boss at work as mentioned before, I run my own business, a rather successful Lead Generation company and that has led me to the point where my clients are my bosses, my shareholders are my bosses, the accountant is my ultimate boss. I sponsor a local football team in Portsmouth, only youth level, name on the shirt stuff and basically give the kiddies a kit to play in. This cost me £600 for all new kits, printing and a few little bits of equipment. And here's the kicker, my accountant had a moan at me about this! "What are you getting from this arrangement as a business?" First question asked. The answer to that is very little. I get the sense of pride watching 11 children run around in kits that look and feel like proper football kits, it excites them and they love it that they are sponsored because it makes them feel special. Totally worth £600 to me, to the accountant (and these people truly are the devil I assure you) he considered it a total waste of company money. The reason I tell this story is because imagine what Neil, Thornbury Surfacing LTD and the various other dedicated board members have put through the club for essentially the same right? I sponsor a kit, Neil sponsors a kit but although the levels are VERY different, essentially it is the same marketing, the same advertisement just on a slightly larger scale. Now think whether Neil pays, just £600 for this privilege, think what Neil puts in both in terms of personal finance and business finance and imagine just for a minute if you will what his "shareholders" "associates" and "accountant" think of the amount of money being received by CTFC for a kit sponsorship and a board around the ground.
I can run you off a list of stadiums that have changed names, location etc. To accommodate a sponsor or an increase of revenue coming into the club, this list would go on for hours and hours, damn near every club in the UK now, except for the ones who do not have too, have this arrangement in place. Of course United have Old Trafford, Liverpool have Anfield, but we are not these clubs! We need to do what we need to do to survive in football or risk being another club consigned to statistics because I assure you, should we continue as a support to poke the bear over something trivial like this, we could well face that reality and then I promise you, Chippenham Town FC will not be in this position anymore.
So for all I care call it the ground whatever you damn well please, this is a decision made by the board FOR THE CLUB and not the few that have jumped up in arms about something that quite honestly, if they thought about it, doesn't really matter anyway. We speak frequently on here about modernising the club, about going into the 21st century. Stadium sponsorship is very much a part of that future. We cannot be bleating on one minute about a card machine in the bar and then put the sword to any changes made to improve the revenue of the club, it's simply not the way it goes.
I am certain to see many of you Saturday and no doubt this will be a discussion many will have around the water cooler but come on people, this is a decision made by a man and his board with no previous of ego, vanity or self gain but has always put the club first. If this is the first "controversial" move made by the BOD, have they not earned the benefit of our trust? We've come this far believing in them, why stop now?
COYMBAny chance you can limit your posts to say a few lines?
I can’t believe any apart from a few of your gang read them or have the inclination or time to digest what generally is just a load of old guff
I must say it’s nice to see some passion and good detailed match reports from the voice and the forum is always interesting to read with so so many views and debates... I don’t get to many games as I used to but keep a good eye on the club and it’s making progress every day!
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Cooky wrote:
TheVoice wrote:
My only hope is that people understand in time why decisions like this are made. Sadly this club has always had a few slow minds with fast fingers and in this instance, it has upset the chairman and his family as accusations of this being a vanity project or about Neil's own ego could not be further from accurate. Neil has always given selflessly during his tenure at the football club, shirking the limelight in favour of a quieter chairmanship, unassumingly going about his business in a way that not many are accustomed to seeing from someone who owns a football club.
Every now and then, decisions like this have to be made with the best interests of the club at heart. Without Mr Blackmore, we are a ship without a captain. We will idle until we sink or of course until someone else takes a trick at the wheel however, I don't see people lining up behind Neil with copious amounts of money and vision to take the club forward so my suggestion to all would be trust in what we have and back the man or (and this is just my personal opinion) risk losing him. If Neil doesn't do this for fame or glory, he surely doesn't do it for the additional hard work and energy expelled into running the club, I can only imagine he does this for the same reason we turn up in our numbers every week. Love, passion, and wanting to make a difference in the club. When he is slated for doing so, my first impression if I was in that position would be "Well, what's the point?" "Get some other person to plough money through the club in the hope of improvement" Because there is no doubt regardless of what others have done before and will do in the future. Neil has taken us to the highest level we have ever played at. Single handed? Of course not, but under his chairmanship, Chippenham have reached heights many could scarcely dream of when we were getting battered around the Southern League and looking likely to fall back down as opposed to what happened mere seasons after.
All of us have a boss at work as mentioned before, I run my own business, a rather successful Lead Generation company and that has led me to the point where my clients are my bosses, my shareholders are my bosses, the accountant is my ultimate boss. I sponsor a local football team in Portsmouth, only youth level, name on the shirt stuff and basically give the kiddies a kit to play in. This cost me £600 for all new kits, printing and a few little bits of equipment. And here's the kicker, my accountant had a moan at me about this! "What are you getting from this arrangement as a business?" First question asked. The answer to that is very little. I get the sense of pride watching 11 children run around in kits that look and feel like proper football kits, it excites them and they love it that they are sponsored because it makes them feel special. Totally worth £600 to me, to the accountant (and these people truly are the devil I assure you) he considered it a total waste of company money. The reason I tell this story is because imagine what Neil, Thornbury Surfacing LTD and the various other dedicated board members have put through the club for essentially the same right? I sponsor a kit, Neil sponsors a kit but although the levels are VERY different, essentially it is the same marketing, the same advertisement just on a slightly larger scale. Now think whether Neil pays, just £600 for this privilege, think what Neil puts in both in terms of personal finance and business finance and imagine just for a minute if you will what his "shareholders" "associates" and "accountant" think of the amount of money being received by CTFC for a kit sponsorship and a board around the ground.
I can run you off a list of stadiums that have changed names, location etc. To accommodate a sponsor or an increase of revenue coming into the club, this list would go on for hours and hours, damn near every club in the UK now, except for the ones who do not have too, have this arrangement in place. Of course United have Old Trafford, Liverpool have Anfield, but we are not these clubs! We need to do what we need to do to survive in football or risk being another club consigned to statistics because I assure you, should we continue as a support to poke the bear over something trivial like this, we could well face that reality and then I promise you, Chippenham Town FC will not be in this position anymore.
So for all I care call it the ground whatever you damn well please, this is a decision made by the board FOR THE CLUB and not the few that have jumped up in arms about something that quite honestly, if they thought about it, doesn't really matter anyway. We speak frequently on here about modernising the club, about going into the 21st century. Stadium sponsorship is very much a part of that future. We cannot be bleating on one minute about a card machine in the bar and then put the sword to any changes made to improve the revenue of the club, it's simply not the way it goes.
I am certain to see many of you Saturday and no doubt this will be a discussion many will have around the water cooler but come on people, this is a decision made by a man and his board with no previous of ego, vanity or self gain but has always put the club first. If this is the first "controversial" move made by the BOD, have they not earned the benefit of our trust? We've come this far believing in them, why stop now?
COYMBAny chance you can limit your posts to say a few lines?
I can’t believe any apart from a few of your gang read them or have the inclination or time to digest what generally is just a load of old guff
Here, I’ll tell you what boss. I’ll just stick to writing whatever the hell I like, whenever the hell I like such is my right. You just stick to posting negative comments, making yourself more and more disliked by the majority that read your quite often “dim witted” comments and basically being generally regarded by most as a bit of a knob..
But since you took the time to reply I’ll be nothing if not helpful for you. I’ll just clear up the fact I’m not in a gang nor is there the ability to have one on a forum, unless we all start adding clever names and numbers to our alias’ and we can be a proper little gang..
And just for you mate as you seem so inclined to tell people how to say and think.. never mind a couple of lines, have a couple of words... the second one is off, and I’m kind enough to let you select the first...
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I don't care what they want to change the name to as long as we have football there throughout the season then fine by me.
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TheVoice wrote:
Cooky wrote:
TheVoice wrote:
My only hope is that people understand in time why decisions like this are made. Sadly this club has always had a few slow minds with fast fingers and in this instance, it has upset the chairman and his family as accusations of this being a vanity project or about Neil's own ego could not be further from accurate. Neil has always given selflessly during his tenure at the football club, shirking the limelight in favour of a quieter chairmanship, unassumingly going about his business in a way that not many are accustomed to seeing from someone who owns a football club.
Every now and then, decisions like this have to be made with the best interests of the club at heart. Without Mr Blackmore, we are a ship without a captain. We will idle until we sink or of course until someone else takes a trick at the wheel however, I don't see people lining up behind Neil with copious amounts of money and vision to take the club forward so my suggestion to all would be trust in what we have and back the man or (and this is just my personal opinion) risk losing him. If Neil doesn't do this for fame or glory, he surely doesn't do it for the additional hard work and energy expelled into running the club, I can only imagine he does this for the same reason we turn up in our numbers every week. Love, passion, and wanting to make a difference in the club. When he is slated for doing so, my first impression if I was in that position would be "Well, what's the point?" "Get some other person to plough money through the club in the hope of improvement" Because there is no doubt regardless of what others have done before and will do in the future. Neil has taken us to the highest level we have ever played at. Single handed? Of course not, but under his chairmanship, Chippenham have reached heights many could scarcely dream of when we were getting battered around the Southern League and looking likely to fall back down as opposed to what happened mere seasons after.
All of us have a boss at work as mentioned before, I run my own business, a rather successful Lead Generation company and that has led me to the point where my clients are my bosses, my shareholders are my bosses, the accountant is my ultimate boss. I sponsor a local football team in Portsmouth, only youth level, name on the shirt stuff and basically give the kiddies a kit to play in. This cost me £600 for all new kits, printing and a few little bits of equipment. And here's the kicker, my accountant had a moan at me about this! "What are you getting from this arrangement as a business?" First question asked. The answer to that is very little. I get the sense of pride watching 11 children run around in kits that look and feel like proper football kits, it excites them and they love it that they are sponsored because it makes them feel special. Totally worth £600 to me, to the accountant (and these people truly are the devil I assure you) he considered it a total waste of company money. The reason I tell this story is because imagine what Neil, Thornbury Surfacing LTD and the various other dedicated board members have put through the club for essentially the same right? I sponsor a kit, Neil sponsors a kit but although the levels are VERY different, essentially it is the same marketing, the same advertisement just on a slightly larger scale. Now think whether Neil pays, just £600 for this privilege, think what Neil puts in both in terms of personal finance and business finance and imagine just for a minute if you will what his "shareholders" "associates" and "accountant" think of the amount of money being received by CTFC for a kit sponsorship and a board around the ground.
I can run you off a list of stadiums that have changed names, location etc. To accommodate a sponsor or an increase of revenue coming into the club, this list would go on for hours and hours, damn near every club in the UK now, except for the ones who do not have too, have this arrangement in place. Of course United have Old Trafford, Liverpool have Anfield, but we are not these clubs! We need to do what we need to do to survive in football or risk being another club consigned to statistics because I assure you, should we continue as a support to poke the bear over something trivial like this, we could well face that reality and then I promise you, Chippenham Town FC will not be in this position anymore.
So for all I care call it the ground whatever you damn well please, this is a decision made by the board FOR THE CLUB and not the few that have jumped up in arms about something that quite honestly, if they thought about it, doesn't really matter anyway. We speak frequently on here about modernising the club, about going into the 21st century. Stadium sponsorship is very much a part of that future. We cannot be bleating on one minute about a card machine in the bar and then put the sword to any changes made to improve the revenue of the club, it's simply not the way it goes.
I am certain to see many of you Saturday and no doubt this will be a discussion many will have around the water cooler but come on people, this is a decision made by a man and his board with no previous of ego, vanity or self gain but has always put the club first. If this is the first "controversial" move made by the BOD, have they not earned the benefit of our trust? We've come this far believing in them, why stop now?
COYMBAny chance you can limit your posts to say a few lines?
I can’t believe any apart from a few of your gang read them or have the inclination or time to digest what generally is just a load of old guffHere, I’ll tell you what boss. I’ll just stick to writing whatever the hell I like, whenever the hell I like such is my right. You just stick to posting negative comments, making yourself more and more disliked by the majority that read your quite often “dim witted” comments and basically being generally regarded by most as a bit of a knob..
But since you took the time to reply I’ll be nothing if not helpful for you. I’ll just clear up the fact I’m not in a gang nor is there the ability to have one on a forum, unless we all start adding clever names and numbers to our alias’ and we can be a proper little gang..
And just for you mate as you seem so inclined to tell people how to say and think.. never mind a couple of lines, have a couple of words... the second one is off, and I’m kind enough to let you select the first...
Nice one voice
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I was rather amused at Highworth on Wednesday evening to discover that their ground is called the 'Save on Tyres Stadium' which sounds more like a piece of useful advice than a company name, but hey, I've remembered it after nearly a week so maybe it's a useful bit of marketing after all.
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Dauntsey Boys wrote:
I was rather amused at Highworth on Wednesday evening to discover that their ground is called the 'Save on Tyres Stadium' which sounds more like a piece of useful advice than a company name, but hey, I've remembered it after nearly a week so maybe it's a useful bit of marketing after all.
PR stunt if Ive ever seen one. Up and down the country there are some weird names for grounds. A lot of history comes with the name Hardenhuish Park. By changing the name that history almost becomes forgotten.
From a supersticious angle, weve had a significant drop in form since the name change. I as a fan would certainly have liked to have a say in the change as do the majority.
Not to discredit the chairman and his family for the work they have done at the club over the years in anyway shape or form. I just think we as fans are entitled to help the club make these decisions however we were not consulted at all. Which shows me the change was for personal gain. Why do it just before the Northampton game? Why not at the start of the season or end?
Unfortunately decision like this just leave those who are upstairs open for criticism by us fans as it comes across a little egotistical.
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Hardenhuish Park remains in the address, much like other clubs who have benefited from getting their ground sponsored, have no problem with joining the 21st century
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Just when you thought it had died a death..
Had the club brought an additional sponsor on board " The West Coast Pasty Stadium" or similar then I would acknowledge the reasoning. They didn't, they expanded the influence of an existing sponsor/chairman in advance of a televised FA Cup Game.
As I said before. I get it. Just don't dress it up.
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New Bar, Pitch Irrigation System, Improvements to much needed aspects of the ground as we commit to becoming a more established force in the National League South. With all of these things going on I really could not care less what they call the ground, I'll never call it The Thornbury Surfacing Stadium in conversation, but then I never called it Hardenhuish Park in conversation either. It's the ground to me, or "up the club". There isn't much in a name for me. All I see is plans for improvement behind the scene and that cannot be a bad thing when all is said and done.